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Post by Davon on Aug 30, 2008 13:04:07 GMT -5
If obama would have chose Hilary for VP he would have won the election no matter what you say. Sure Hilary and Obama have different ways of doing things but Hilary would just have had to deal with it and of course Hilary has Bill Clinton to help her out to.
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Post by See? See? on Aug 30, 2008 13:08:10 GMT -5
If obama would have chose Hilary for VP he would have won the election no matter what you say. Sure Hilary and Obama have different ways of doing things but Hilary would just have had to deal with it and of course Hilary has Bill Clinton to help her out to. I don't think Hilary wanted to settle for VP or this probably would have happened. lol at McCain and Palin last nite, whichever one gave a speech last nite (i think it was Palin) was all like, if u want change, u'll vote for us. if any1 bought that, i might cry.
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Post by Davon on Aug 30, 2008 13:10:31 GMT -5
Mcain chose a women on purpose just to win this election not really because he liked her. Wasnt it before He was gonna choose Gililani for his VP?
Im a republican but it just makes me kinda mad that Mcain has to copy Obama with the word "change".
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Post by See? See? on Aug 30, 2008 13:22:06 GMT -5
Mcain chose a women on purpose just to win this election not really because he liked her. Wasnt it before He was gonna choose Gililani for his VP? Im a republican but it just makes me kinda mad that Mcain has to copy Obama with the word "change". yeah, he's only met Palin once before and this one chick on CNN said she wasn't surprised by his choice for VP. lol, if any1 saw that coming i'd be amazed. especially considering every1 is saying that he had to go way down his list to find some1 that would run with him. the way i'm looking at it, i think that with the whole system of checks and balances that as long as the people around the president make good decisions, the country will be fine. i think the president really needs 2 be able 2 motivate people and get them on his side and stuff when our country meets with the world. that's why i'm rooting for Obama. he's a very charismatic person, like Bill Clinton was when he was president. and i'm not like a complete democrat or anything. i like mccain more than hilary, but i think obama is exactly what the country needs.
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Post by Davon on Aug 30, 2008 14:03:59 GMT -5
Yea im a republican but right now the country needs a democratic way of doing things since alot of the middle of class is in a shit hole right now.
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Post by See? See? on Aug 30, 2008 14:15:10 GMT -5
agreed.
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Post by crisis on Aug 30, 2008 22:13:11 GMT -5
was all like, if u want change, u'll vote for us. if any1 bought that, i might cry. If you by that Obama can change anymore than the budget I might cry. Atleast McCain is realistic about the things he wants to change. And I still don't understand why people equate Bush and McCain... is it because he's gonna man up and not walk out of iraq like he should? Cause other than that I still struggle to see the similarities. And I don't see why saying Palin doesn't have enough experience to be VP, when you have someone like Obama running for PRESIDENT... Who ever said he met her once, don't be stupid, I won't even get into that fail. Oh and the whole "way down the list cause the people higher up didn't want to lose their jobs and lose the election" idea... thats not true. Number one, when running a campaign on the presidential ticket, you don't forfeit your position unless you actually win. Second, Huckabee, Romney, Guliani, etc., all them would have accepted a VP nom without a doubt.
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Post by crisis on Aug 30, 2008 22:21:24 GMT -5
Yea im a republican but right now the country needs a democratic way of doing things since alot of the middle of class is in a shit hole right now. Only thing that will help this country's economy, is a stable oil price; derived from lower dependence on foreign oil... Time to get drillin... So naturally elect a liberal??... fantastic... We will all just fill up our tires and get regular tune-up's... then we won't have to drill our own oil........... God I love watching Obama talk when he doesn't have a teleprompter what to say... hard to be charismatic when you don't know what the fuck your talking about... www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzZNP4tTfV0www.youtube.com/watch?v=S47sO1TCVmEPlenty of people can read enthusiastically... doesn't make them able to lead the free world... I do agree with your above post about picking Hillary... but it never would have happened.
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Post by Dell on Aug 31, 2008 1:43:31 GMT -5
I say its a good choice, she has alot of experience dealing with foreign policy, she is for off shore drilling, she is a decent looking woman unlike that ugly bitch,
Honestlly its funny the Democrats started tearing into her about her being a woman and not having experience when she has been governor almost as long as clintons been a senator but none of the other democrats gave her shit.
another thing Obama is for change but picks biden whose been in washington for the past 30 years so doesnt that go against this so called "Change"
also biden said 6 months ago that Obama did not have enough experience and once he said that and was questioned about it a few weeks later Biden said he stood by his statement and now hes Obamas running mate
Seriouslly say what you want about Republicans but at least they dont contradict themselves
McCain & Palin Ftw
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Post by Dell on Aug 31, 2008 1:50:02 GMT -5
another thing I love how Obama will not debate or go to a meeting with McCain where there is no prepared manuscripts just people asking them questions on the spot
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Post by Jordan on Aug 31, 2008 7:05:38 GMT -5
I say its a good choice, she has alot of experience dealing with foreign policy, she is for off shore drilling, she is a decent looking woman unlike that ugly bitch, Honestlly its funny the Democrats started tearing into her about her being a woman and not having experience when she has been governor almost as long as clintons been a senator but none of the other democrats gave her shit. another thing Obama is for change but picks biden whose been in washington for the past 30 years so doesnt that go against this so called "Change" also biden said 6 months ago that Obama did not have enough experience and once he said that and was questioned about it a few weeks later Biden said he stood by his statement and now hes Obamas running mate Seriouslly say what you want about Republicans but at least they dont contradict themselves McCain & Palin Ftw Mcain FTW!
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Post by storm on Aug 31, 2008 10:23:26 GMT -5
Yea im a republican but right now the country needs a democratic way of doing things since alot of the middle of class is in a shit hole right now. in case you havent noticed, we're at war. you do NOT want a democrat in office right now, sure i wouldnt mind one in the next election or after that one because we might be out of iraq by then but as long we were at war we need a republican. obama could either really fuck up the nation with his exit plan or help the country, but my guess would be that he fucks it up
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Post by See? See? on Aug 31, 2008 10:37:10 GMT -5
was all like, if u want change, u'll vote for us. if any1 bought that, i might cry. If you by that Obama can change anymore than the budget I might cry. Atleast McCain is realistic about the things he wants to change. And I still don't understand why people equate Bush and McCain... is it because he's gonna man up and not walk out of iraq like he should? Cause other than that I still struggle to see the similarities. And I don't see why saying Palin doesn't have enough experience to be VP, when you have someone like Obama running for PRESIDENT... Who ever said he met her once, don't be stupid, I won't even get into that fail. Oh and the whole "way down the list cause the people higher up didn't want to lose their jobs and lose the election" idea... thats not true. Number one, when running a campaign on the presidential ticket, you don't forfeit your position unless you actually win. Second, Huckabee, Romney, Guliani, etc., all them would have accepted a VP nom without a doubt. McCain's voted with Bush 90% of the time so how he is his own individual and isn't a diehard republican I have no idea. I'm not saying that Palin's a bad choice because she doesn't have experience. I'm just saying that the republicans have been saying the whole time that you should vote for McCain because Obama doesn't have enough experience, and then they went and picked some1 who was governor of ALASKA for 1.5 years. www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUuuDjsR340at 1:10, "McCain and Palin actually don't even know each other." from CNN. Obviously he's just hoping to get the hilary vote with Palin, which will definitely work for some people. I know our town supervisor was going to vote obama but apparently changed her mind just because Palin's a girl (which makes me a little bit uneasy about her being our townsupervisor but anywho). The only problem is that if woman actually look into her, she doesn't really support anything that hilary supported.
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Post by See? See? on Aug 31, 2008 10:43:07 GMT -5
Yea im a republican but right now the country needs a democratic way of doing things since alot of the middle of class is in a shit hole right now. in case you havent noticed, we're at war. you do NOT want a democrat in office right now, sure i wouldnt mind one in the next election or after that one because we might be out of iraq by then but as long we were at war we need a republican. obama could either really fuck up the nation with his exit plan or help the country, but my guess would be that he fucks it up if mccain's president, we're not getting out of iraq for awhile, he'll be dead before we do. and our country's already pretty fucked up, but sure, lets elect mccain so we can do the same shit.
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Post by storm on Aug 31, 2008 11:00:31 GMT -5
in case you havent noticed, we're at war. you do NOT want a democrat in office right now, sure i wouldnt mind one in the next election or after that one because we might be out of iraq by then but as long we were at war we need a republican. obama could either really fuck up the nation with his exit plan or help the country, but my guess would be that he fucks it up if mccain's president, we're not getting out of iraq for awhile, he'll be dead before we do. and our country's already pretty fucked up, but sure, lets elect mccain so we can do the same shit. lol your acting like obama could do better
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